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Newsgroups: alt.supermodels,alt.answers,news.answers Path: senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!enterpoop.mit.edu!uhog.mit.edu!wupost!howland.reston.ans.net!newsserver.jvnc.net!louie!degenerate.ee.udel.edu!scott From: scott@degenerate.ee.udel.edu (Doke) Subject: alt.supermodels FAQ Message-ID: <supermodels_734422263@louie.udel.edu> Followup-To: alt.supermodels Summary: answers about supermodels Sender: usenet@udel.edu (USENET News Service) Supersedes: <supermodels_734087668@louie.udel.edu> Nntp-Posting-Host: degenerate.ee.udel.edu Organization: University of Delaware Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1993 06:11:12 GMT Approved: news-answers-request@MIT.Edu Expires: Sat, 8 May 1993 06:11:03 GMT Lines: 667 Xref: senator-bedfellow.mit.edu alt.supermodels:4298 alt.answers:169 news.answers:7434 Archive-Name: supermodels-faq Last-Modified: 1993/04/10 Version: 1.11 This is a Frequently Asked Questions list for alt.supermodels. It tries to address the questions usually asked by newbies, so the regular readers won't have to see them again. The info is mostly drawn from postings to this group, but a lot has been contributed directly. This list is not guaranteed to be complete, accurate, useful, grammatically sound, or spelled correctly. This faq particularly needs addresses (fashion houses, magazines, catalogs, fan clubs, etc), and birthdates. If you have any data that belongs here, _please_ send it in. Comments and suggestions are welcome. Please email stuff to scott@udel.edu. Please say if you want your name credited. [I've been busy recently so this isn't too up-to-date. I'm posting it now only because I've been seeing too many dumb questions on the net.] ##################### Contents: Lists of models and data. Addresses. How to download and view the pictures. Where to get pictures of supermodels on the net. Standard for posting pictures. History of alt.supermodels and this faq. Credits. Disclaimer. ##################### Lists of models and data. These people have been mentioned on this group. Some are supermodels. Most of them have some claim to being models, but aren't famous enough yet to rate a "super". The rest are actresses, playmates, etc. Given the name of the newgroup, they probably don't belong here, but there seem to be a lot of questions about them. The three types are mixed together to avoid arguments. Alexander, Karen First Black model to appear in SI swimsuit issue in 1987. Is age 27 - began modelling at 16. Is married and has a daughter Ella. Alt, Carol Played in a couple of B movies; starring roles, even. Anderson, Pamela Playboy playmate for February 1990. Had minor but regular parts on "Home Improvement" and "Baywatch". Applegate, Christina No known modelling credits. Plays the regular character "Kelly Bundy" on "Married With Children". She's had lead parts in a couple of B movies, including "Streets", and "Don't Tell Mom the Babysitter's Dead". Before you ask, there are NO known nude pictures of her. All of the ones posted so far are fake. "Streets" contains an erotic scene almost showing her topless, but it's rumored she used a prosthetic device over her chest. Bellucci, Monica 23. Cast as a vampire in the movie Bram Stoker's Dracula directed by Francis Ford Coppola. She was discovered by Coppola's son Roman on the cover of an Italian magazine called Zoom. Bercu, Michaela Appeared as a vampire in Coppola's Dracula. Bruni, Carla Age 24, began modelling at 19. Her boyfriend is French actor Vincent Perez (28) although she was rumored to be the cause of the marriage breakup between Mick Jagger and Jerry Hall. Bruni countered the allegations by asking why she would have anything to do with a shrivelled up old fossil like Mick Jagger. As a result, Jagger and Hall's marriage appears to remain intact. A story on Bruni appears in the Jan 93 issue of American Vogue. Campbell, Naomi Is one of the top five supermodels in the modelling industry. Nationality - British. Appears in a steamy video with Michael Jackson and is reportedly pursuing a singing career on her own. Christensen, Helena Appears in print ads for Karl Lagerfeld and Gianni Versace. Connelly, Jennifer Connelly did some modelling around '87. She's now a serious actress with several film credits including "The Rocketeer", "Career Opportunities", and "Hotspot". Crawford, Cindy Cindy Crawford, of course, has been the spokesperson for Pepsi for a while, has her own exercise video, and her own show on MTV. She's also done at least three calendars, and of the profit, half (I believe) goes toward fighting leukemia. Has a three year $3 million contract with Revlon. Also appears in print ads for JH Collectibles and Capezio Bags. Rumored to be having an affair with Christy Turlington (Yes, that means exactly what it says). Dubosfertus, Nadege Is usually just Nadege. She is married to photographer Tiziano Magni who has one son named Rocco. She was married last year in an Azzedine Alaia mini dress with push-up bodice. Nadege appears regularly in American Vogue and on the runways. She can be seen in ads for Chanel. Eleniak, Erika Playboy playmate for July 1989. Had regular role on "Baywatch". Had a part in the movie "Under Siege". Elliott, Gail Is another "older" model but is still going strong especially on runway and in print ads. Can be seen in ads for Ports International and Jaeger Evangelista, Linda Canadian. Married to the man who heads the Elite agency in France. Linda is one of the top five supermodels of the world. She recently joked that she wouldn't get out of bed for less than $10,000 a day. She appears in ads for Barney's New York (with Kyle Maclachlan), and in ads for Kenar. She is also reported to be one of the hardest working models of the moment which could partly account for her great success. Fabian, Ava Not a model. Playboy playmate for August 1986. Falaise, Lucie de la One of the new crop of models labelled the "gamines". She appeared on the cover of Vogue Dec. 92. She is 19 and is model/muse excluse for Yves Saint Laurent. Fedoruk, Cathy Canadian model. Appears in ads for Ellese. Flavin, Jennifer Not a "super" model. Is Sylvester Stallone's girlfriend and it is rumoured that designer's have been putting her in their shows as a favor to "Rocky". Her nose has been likened to Bob Hope's. Nonetheless, she can be seen occasionally in mags with Stallone, but was on a cover of Cosmopolitan in Spring 92. Frederique Dutch. Appears in Victoria's Secret Catalogue. Also on a recent cover of Cosmopolitan magazine. Ghauri, Yasmeen From Montreal, Canada. One of the top supermodels. Appears in ads for Valentino, Escada, and Gianni Versace. Gisele A model who is popular on the runways. She also appears in recent ads for Saks Fifth Avenue and has a small appearance in George Michael's Too Funky video. Hallyday, Estelle She is becoming an "older" model and is not quite as popular as she was a few years ago. She appeared in some Revlon print ads and has a major part in George Michael's Too Funky video. She is married to French pop singer David Hallyday. Helfer, Tricia The winner of this years Ford Supermodel of the Year contest. Is from Alberta, Canada and is on the cover of the Feb 93' issue of Flare magazine (Canadian). She is 5'10. Herzigora, Eva Czech, age - 19, height - 5'9, bust - 37, waist - 23, hips - 36, eyes - blue, hair - bleached blonde, agency - Madison, earning power - $8,000-$12,000 per day. Eva gained her most exposure appearing in Guess? ads in early '92. She can be seen in the photographer Ellen von Unwerth's film called Inferno. She has an interesting beauty routine of bleaching her hair with vodka and lemon juice. Hunter, Rachel Appears in ads for Cover Girl. Is married to singer Rod Stewart. Nationality - New Zealand. I believe she had a baby recently. Iman From Somalia. Had a part as a shapeshifter in "Star Trek: the Undiscovered Country". Ireland, Kathy Kathy Ireland has played numerous small roles on the large and small screen, including an episode of the sitcom "Grand" and the movies "Mom and Dad Save the Universe", "Neccesary Roughness", "National Lampoons Loaded Weapon 1", and "Danger Island". She had the title role in "Alien from L.A.". Her main "thing" is modelling swimsuits for Sports Illustrated. Kitaen, Tawny Not a model. Tawny Kitaen may be best known for her Whitesnake videos; she used to be married to their lead singer. She plays one of the regulars on "The New WKRP in Cincinnati", and co-hosts "America's Funniest People" with Dave Coulier, after Arleen Sorkin stepped down. LeBon, Yasmin Yasmin was at the height of her popularity about 1988 when she married Duran Duran lead singer Simon Le Bon. She has a daughter Amber Rose. She is still popular on the runways. MacDowell, Andie Was L'Oreal's exclusive model until a few years ago. Continued modeling until about '90. Is now mostly acting, and appears in the movies St. Elmo's Fire; Tarzan; Sex, Lies and Videotape; Object of Beauty; and Greencard. MacPherson, Elle Age 28, Height 1.83meters and weight 58 kilograms. Models for Sports Illustrated. Has had at least one appearance on the David Letterman Show. Australian. Madonna Mostly a singer, with some film credits, but no real modeling credits. Mason, Claudia Another of the "gamines". Is Canadian and is very popular on European runways. Can be spotted in American and British Vogue as well as British Elle. Matthews, Lisa Playboy playmate for April 1990 and playmate of the year for 1991. No confirmed modeling, TV, or movie credits. Rumored to have had a tiny (probably non-speaking) role in "Hudson Hawk". McCullough, Julie Playboy playmate for February 1986. Had a regular part on "Growing Pains". McGrotha, Rosemary I Donna Karan's model/muse. She appears in almost all of the Karan ads. She was in a popular ad where she portrayed a woman who was President of the United States and still wasn't afraid to show a little cleavage and a little leg. She is 5'9 and wears a D cup bust size. Milano, Alyssa Had regular part on "Who's the Boss?". Has a few posters for commercial sale Mulder, Karen One of the most popular blonde models of the moment. Appeared in the requisite Guess? ads a year or so ago (1991 I think). She is Dutch and married to a fellow called Rene Bosne. She can be seen everywhere! Nicole, Anna Nielsen, Brigitte Best known for movie roles such as the title in "Red Sonja", and a hitlady in "Beverly Hills Cop II". She did a pictorial for Playboy in September, 1985, the last stapled issue. Ogilvie, Lana Canadian model who will soon appear in the upcoming Cover Girl ads for their new line of cosmetics for darker skinner models. Otis, Carr'e American. Former boyfriend was Mickey Rourke. Carrie has five tattoos - a rose on her right ankle, a Japanese peace sign above the rose, a Tibetan symbol on her left ankle, a large angle on her back and a Native American Thunderbird on her wrist. About two years ago she accidently shot herself under her left arm when a firearm she was carrying went off in her purse. Carrie appeared in the infamous movie Wild Orchid where she was reported to be having real sex on screen with then boyfriend Mickey Rourke. She can be seen in some equally infamous Calvin Klein jeans ads that came out in '92. The story line for the ads was her travelling with a band, appearing naked from the waist down and riding a motorcycle. Peele, Beverly American, age 17, height 5'11, bust 34A, waist 23, hips 34, eyes brown, hair black, agency - Next, earning power $10,000 per day. Beverly is one of the most popular black models today besides Naomi Campbell. She appears in all of the major runway shows and has been photographed numerous times for American Vogue, and has been photographed for ads by Steven Meisel and Bruce Weber. She earns up to $1 million a year Pestova, Daniela Czech, age 22, Height - 5'11, Bust - 34B, waist - 23, hips - 35, eyes - blue, hair - blonde, agency - Spectrum, earning power - $2 million per year, $12,000 per day. Daniela has a contract with L'Oreal and appears in various L'Oreal cosmetics print ads. On the cover of Cosmopolitan's February 1993 issue. Porizkova, Paulina Age 27, Height 1.79 meters and weight 59 kilograms. Has had at least one appearance on the Arsenio Hall Show. She's said during an interview that she unwinds by "playing Nintendo". Appears to model exclusively for Estee Lauder. Is married to Ric Ocasek, and recently wrote a children's book about the adventures of a Roach in New York. Paulina frequently criticized the shallowness of the modelling industry and has mentioned that she is in the process of working on a book about the industry as she sees it. Richardson, Ashley Is from Florida. Can be seen in ads for Jordache. Ashley is well over 6' tall (6'2 I think). Rossellina, Isabella Exclusive model for Lancome. Also appears in ads for Dolce and Gabbana. Her relationship with director David Lynch is finished, but she can still be seen in his movies Blue Velvet and Wild at Heart. S., Emma Appears in George Michael's Too Funky video. Schiffer, Claudia Age 21, Height 5'11", weight 127 pounds, 35-24-36. Is one of the top five supermodels in the modelling industry today. Has a four year contract with Revlon worth $6 million. Nationality - German. Also models in print ads for the clothing company Iceberg, for Chanel and Gianni Versace. If, of course, the spokesmodel rep for Guess? perfume. Is rumoured to be fiance of Prince Albert of Monaco. Seymour, Stephanie Stephanie Seymour has modeled swimsuits for Sports Illustrated, and is also the primary spokesmodel for Victoria's Secret lingerie. She has done at least two pictorials for Playboy; the first in 1991 (around March or April); the second in February 1993's edition. Smith, Amber American, age - 20, height 5'10, bust 36c, waist 24 hips 35, eyes hazel, hair reddish brown, agency Spectrum, earning power $12,000 per day. Amber's ambition is to be America's #1 pin-up girl. She is apparently famous for a tattoo of a redhead on her thigh "It's a tattoo of Amber" she says. Smith, Vickie Playboy playmate for May 1992. Now a spokesmodel for Guess. She hails from Mexia, Texas, and has one son. Smithers, Jan Did some modeling work, then had a regular part as "Bailey" on "WKRP in Cinncinatti" in the early eighties. Stone, Sharon Not a model. Mostly famous for her leading part in "Basic Instinct". Swanson, Kristy Not a model. Had the title roles in "Buffy the Vampire Slayer", "Mannequin II", and parts in several other movies. Taylor, Niki American, age - 17, height 5'11, bust 34b, waist 24, hips 34, eyes hazel, hair brown, agency Spectrum, earning power - $15,000 per day. Niki is head of her own company called Niki Inc. She has a tattoo of a dolphin on her ankle, a sunflower on her foot and two on her buttocks. Niki appears in ads for Cover Girl and older L'Oreal ads. Turlington, Christy Height 5'10. Has a major contract with Maybelline for two years at $2 million. Also can be seen in print ads for Calvin Klein Eternity perfume North Beach Leather, and Anne Klein Accessories. Christy has a small tattoo inside her right ankle, is married, but is rumoured to be having an affair with Cindy Crawford (Yes, that means exactly what it says). Christy is one of the top five supermodels of the world at the moment. Appeared in George Michael's video "Freedom". Webb, Veronica Black model for Revlon's new cosmetic line for darker skin. Appears in Spike Lee's Jungle Fever and has a small appearance in Malcolm X. Weigel, Teri Playboy playmate for April 1986. Worked as a catalog model for a while, then went into hardcore porn (Yes, that's been confirmed). Williams, Kim Williams, Rachel A popular model who appears frequently in American Elle magazine. She is also in print ads for Nine West Spa Collection shoes. Vendela Nearly exclusive model for Elizabeth Arden. Swedish. Zadrick, Shana A model who is still trying to establish her niche but who is being helped along, much like Linda Evangelista was by photographer Steven Meisel. She appears in ads for Calvin Klein Escape, was a Guess? girl in 1991, and appears in ads for Kors and Alberta Ferreti. Victor, I hope you don't mind my reposting this. If you do, I'll delete it. |From: panlilio@acs.ucalgary.ca (Victor P. Panlilio) |Newsgroups: alt.supermodels |Subject: FROM THE AGENCY BOOK: SOME ELITE MODEL STATS |Summary: Official published stats for some Elite models |Date: 22 Nov 92 09:15:26 GMT | |Since some people have requested official stats from the Elite |agency book, which I happen to have, I thought I'd post some: | | Height Bust-Waist-Hips Dress Size | Hair Color Eye Color Shoe Size | |Monica Bellucci 5'9-1/2" 35-24-35 6-8 | Dark Brown Dark Brown 9-1/2 | |Cindy Crawford 5'9-1/2" 34B-24-35 8 | Light Brown Dark Brown 9-1/2 | |Dee Dee 5'11" 35-25-36 8-9 | Blonde Blue 10 | |Meghan Douglas 5'10" 33-24.5-35 6-8 | Lt. Brown Blue-Green 7.5-8 | |Gail Elliott 5'10" 34-23-35 6-8 | Brunette Brown 9.5 | |Estelle 5'9" 36-26-37 8-10 | Blonde Blue 8.5 | |Linda 5'9-1/2" 34-24-34.5 8 |Evangelista ???? Blue-Green 8.5 | |Famke Janssen 5'11" 36-24-36 8-10 | Brown Hazel 11 | |Cathy Fedoruk 5'9-1/2" 34B-25-35 8 | Blonde Blue 9.5 | |Frederique 5'10" 36C-24.5-36 8 | Blonde Blue-Green 8.5 | |Jill Goodacre 5'8" 35-24-34 8 | Light Brown Green 9 | |Brit Hammer 5'6-1/2" 32-23-33 6 | Brown Blue 8 | |Elaine Irwin 5'10" 34B-24-34 6-8 | Blonde Blue 8 | |Yasmin LeBon 5'9" 34-24-35 6-8 | Brown Dark Brown 9 | |Michaela Bercu 5'11" 36-26-36 8 | Blonde Blue 11 | |Karen Mulder 5'10" 34.5-24-34.5 6 | Blonde Blue 8 | |Naomi Campbell 5'9-1/2" 34-22-34 6-8 | Dark Brown Dark Brown 9 | |Tatjana Patitz 5'11" 36-24-36 8 | Blonde Blue 9.5 | |Hunter Reno 5'11-1/2" 35-25-35 8-10 | Blonde Blue 11 | |Emma S. 5'9-1/2" 35-25-36 8 | Blonde Blue 8 | |Stephanie 5'10" 34B-22-35 6-8 |Seymour Light Brown Blue-Green 10 | |Kara Young 5'8" 34-23-34 6 | Brown Brown 8.5 | |From: OLSON@ac.dal.ca |Subject: alt. supermodels FAQ |Date: 02 Feb 1993 12:07:34 -0400 (AST) | |The top 5 models of the moment are: |Cindy Crawford |Claudia Schiffer |Linda Evangelista |Christy Turlington |Naomi Campbell | |Cindy, Christy, and Claudia earn from $7,000 to $25,000 for each |runway appearance they make. | |The Supermodels that appear on the American Vogue 100th anniversary |issue (April 92) are | |Christy Turlington |Naomi Campbell |Claudia Schiffer |Linda Evangelista |Tatjana Patitz |Yasmeen Ghauri |Cindy Crawford |Niki Taylor |Karen Mulder |Elaine Erwin | |There are two films with/about supermodel as the moment. Both films |are directed by photographers. One is Peter Lindbergh's film Models: |The Film, and Ellen von Unwerth's supermodel film (I don't know the name of |it). But models Eva Herzigova, Yasmeen Ghauri and Kate Moss appear in |another von Unwerth film Inferno. | | |Model labelled the "gamines" are popular at the moment. They are: | |Kate Moss |Shalom |Lucie de la Falaise |Kristen McMenamy (yuch!) |A story about the new gamines appears in this weeks Newsweek. They are |described as looking like little boys and are popular in modelling |the current grunge fashion look. ##################### Addresses. There used to be a huge list of addresses compiled by Julio Richard Laredo in here. I deleted it to save space. I'll bring it back if enough people complain. Victoria's Secret Catalogue North American Office PO BOX 182103 Columbus, OH 43272-2497 1-800-888-8200 ##################### How to download and view the pictures. Read the FAQ for alt.binaries.pictures. If your site doesn't get that group or expires it quickly, look in news.answers, or ftp it from rtfm.mit.edu. Jim Howard has done an excellent job of explaining this, much better than I could. He describes the neccesary steps and programs on a wide variety of systems, and tells you where to find them on the net. Be sure to check the companion newsgroup alt.binaries.pictures.supermodels. ##################### Where to get pictures of supermodels on the net. Picture files can be obtained over the internet using ftp, or mail to one of the ftp-by-mail servers. For more info on ftp, see Tom Czarnik's "FTP List - FAQ" posting to news.answers. There are NO ftp sites carrying nude pictures of supermodels or anyone else. Every time one opens, 328959802 guys try to ftp to it at once, it's load goes to infinity, and it's admin deletes the pictures in self defense. There are lots of sites that keep G and PG rated pictures of supermodels. Ken Higginson <khiggins@nyx.cs.du.edu>, and Pete "Ender" Walsh <ender@uunet.uu.net> have been compiling and posting lists of XXX Here are a couple of the more popular ones, check the ftp FAQ for a complete list. einstein.mse.lehigh.edu:/gif erratic.bradley.edu:/gif garfield.catt.ncsu.edu:/pub/graphics/images/girls louie.udel.edu:/pub/supermodels louie only has small "mug-shot" pictures of supermodel's faces, copies of the posted lists of where to find pictures of particular supermodels, and this FAQ. nic.funet.fi:/pub/pics/gif/pics/sport wuarchive.wustl.edu:/graphics/gif ##################### Standard for posting pictures. Again, read Jim Howard's FAQ for alt.binaries.pictures. He clearly describes the current standards for splitting articles (and why you should), how to title them, helpful programs, etc. In particular, look for xmitBin, an automated spliting-posting program. There is now a alt.binaries.pictures.supermodels newsgroup. It may be a better place to post pictures than alt.supermodels. I would like to add that auto-decoders are becoming far more common. These programs scan all new articles in a list of newsgroups, find the picture pieces, sort them, assemble them, process them, and drop the finished picture files in a directory. The only problem is they demand that the subject lines follow the standard. If you don't follow the standard, a lot of people will never even see your posting; so why did you bother to post? Very few things are farther than the standard than NeXT's NewsGrazer format. Only a tiny fraction of one percent of readers will be able to view it, so you're just wasting bandwidth. ##################### History and purpose of alt.supermodels and this faq. alt.supermodels was created (at louie anyway) on 30 July 92, by a newgroup control message from umalexa9@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Edward W. Alexander). The original purpose was discussion of supermodels. Then someone realized that supermodels are known through their pictures, so it is appropriate to discuss photographs here. That led to posting pictures, so everyone could be talking about the same thing. The end result seems to be flame wars. |From: brinkley@cs.utexas.edu (Paul Brinkley) |Subject: Re: Where are all the gifs |Date: Mon Mar 01 11:56:16 EST 1993 | |We just got through a pretty long and hard discussion concerning this. |Apparently alt.supermodels was NOT created with massive picture-posting |in mind. Your post could possibly touch off another flame war. | |There are many alternatives to posting here. First of all, unlike "erotic" |GIFs, the NSF doesn't lean on any FTP sites under its influence for carrying |pictures of models. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that due to the |lesser demand for model pictures, posting a site's name will NOT cause its |subsequent death from overload. (I could be wrong on this.) | |For those who don't have FTP access, you could post to alt.binaries.pictures.- |misc. This is the perfect place for them; a.p.b.e is slightly less |appropriate. For those who have neither FTP nor access to the binaries |groups, a simple e-mail should be adequate. (And if you can't even get e-mail, |you probably can't read this, either!) ##################### Credits. Many people contributed directly or indirectly to this faq. Several requested to remain anonymous (or didn't say), and aren't listed here. If I've forgotten anyone, then I appologize for my spotty memory, no slight was intended. Thank you: Janet Olson for most of the relevent data. Jonathan I. Kamens for his post_faq program. Victor P. Panlilio for his many useful postings. Julio Richard Laredo for his long list of catalogs. ##################### Disclamer. The University is not in any way responsible for this FAQ or anything else related to the alt.supermodels newsgroup. The contributors mentioned above and I have tried to make this posting accurate, and I appologize for any errors. However, since I have no control over anything else posted to the newsgroup, I cannot and do not assume responsibity for the group.